I like to watch videos on YouTube in my down time at work, or on my commute to and from work; which is well over an hour one way. I am often drawn to mysterious or unexplainable phenomena. Yesterday, I watched a video in where this man, David Paulides, and his books and movie were mentioned. He has written books called Missing 411, and it is now also a movie. I have not read the books, and can’t honestly say that I feel I have time for it right now, but they will definitely be on my list of well…probably over 100…books I would like to read! But, I have watched about 6 video interviews and lectures he has given on YouTube. Maybe more. I first listened to a video on my drive home from work a couple of days ago. And when I returned home, I listened to more until I actually could not stay awake any more, and fell asleep during one! The next morning, I rewound the video back to a point I could last remember and kept listening on my way to work, and then watched more at lunch, etc. It was slow at work today, so I was able to sit at my desk with my phone and my earbuds, and just listen. Some of them would have a Q & A segment towards the end, and people have posed some very interesting theories as to what they think have happened. But I never heard this one posed, and so I started looking into this on my own.
If you have never heard of David Paulides and/or Missing 411, you are probably wondering what I am talking about; so I will give you the condensed version, as I understand it from his lectures and interviews. As I stated before, I have not read any of his books. There may well be more information provided in them; but I do not have time or access to and for them right now. Though, undoubtedly, they are page turners!
David Paulides was a police officer in the Bay Area of CA for about 20 years. He earned his Master’s degree from the University of San Francisco, so is by no means unintelligent. He has also been on searches for Big Foot, or Yeti; and claims to have seen one. He was in a National Park doing some research and he noticed there were a couple of rangers that seemed to be following him around. That evening, when he had gone to a lodge outside of the park for the night, he hears a knock at his door. It’s one of two rangers, who say that they had heard of him before and read some of his work, and that they thought there was something he should look into. So, David invites the ranger in, and the ranger tells him that he and his friend had both worked in various National Parks over the previous 15-20 years and that they had both worked missing person cases on the park properties and that in talking to each other, had discovered some eerily similar things. They both thought that the people had disappeared in areas that were a little odd, and during the first 7 to 10 days, there was a lot of media attention and a lot of people and resources poured into the disappearances; but after that 7-10 days, there was nothing done. He told David that there were even times when they had tried to follow up on cases or get reports, and were stone walled, etc., and they couldn’t find any information. He said that they were concerned because of the numbers of people that were disappearing and what they thought was the lack of follow up and research into what had happened and they thought something ought to be done.
The next day, David calls a couple of his buddies and asks them if they can check into this matter; and a couple of hours later, he gets a call back and they tell him that there is something to it. That there are a lot of people missing from National Park areas.
A short period after that, David files a petition through the Freedom of Information Act to get a list of all the people who had disappeared specifically from Yosemite National Park and from their jurisdiction. A while later, he gets a call from an attorney wanting to know why he wanted the information. (Which they are not supposed to use the reason you want the information as a determinate as to whether or not they will give you the information.) David tells him that he knows this, and he is told that they are just curious. So, he tells the attorney that he is just doing research. The attorney tells him that they don’t have any lists. (Which is odd that federally trained officers are not keeping track of any missing persons from the parks-not to mention a bit inept or careless, in my opinion.) So, he resubmits a request thinking that maybe they are just playing a semantics game with him, and again, he is told the same thing from the same attorney. So, he tells the attorney that he is going to use his exemption as an author to get the information. The attorney says that he will get back to him, and calls him back later and tells him that his books aren’t in enough libraries for him to qualify for the exemptions. So, David tells him that this is not part of the FOIA, and the attorney tells him that it’s their internal policy. So, David says he will pay for the information and he would like a quote. The first being for a list of missing people from Yosemite National Park, and then a quote for the entire jurisdiction. He gets a call from a regional person with FOIA in Denver, and she tells David that for the list of missing persons from Yosemite, it will cost $34,000; and for the entire jurisdiction, it would be $1.4 million.
At this point, David definitely feels like there is something wrong, and he doesn’t have that kind of money. He is more driven than ever, and begins his journey to obtain as much information as possible regarding these missing person cases. He has never received the lists from the National Park Service to this day, even after more filing requests and even appeals. Remarkably, the amount of information he has gotten through various channels, like interviewing other park rangers, families of the missing persons, press that had written about the cases, etc., has been astonishing. But more astonishing is what he has found.
After David ruled out cases with things like mental illness, people who may have purposely disappeared, and evidence of animal or human predation; he was still left with a ton of cases that he had no idea what to do with, and they had some amazingly coincidental circumstances surrounding them.
One thing that he noticed, was that there seemed to be some distinct clusters of disappearances in a lot of areas. In fact, not all, but MOST of these have occurred in clusters. These clusters seem to be in mountainous areas along the west coast, the Rocky Mountains, Smoky Mountains, around the Great Lakes, and the northern pan handle of the country. And nothing in the middle of the country. (See map below.)
This is David’s map which I copied and pasted from one of the YouTube videos. I do not claim any rights or legal ties to it.
The people who disappeared were not alone, and disappeared in what many would describe as the blink of an eye. There one moment. Gone the next. He said that these people could be small children, as young as two years old, who would disappear, be gone for a while, and then reappear somewhere else, with their clothes and/or shoes missing, or clothes that are tattered and torn, or now on backwards. They may be dead or alive, but if they are alive, they will always be unconscious or semi-conscious, with no memory of what happened to them at all. Search dogs would find no sent, but rather walk around in a circle and lie down. Trackers find no prints or any traces of even which direction they could have gone. No clues, no nothing. Just gone. Many will never be seen or heard from again. David says there is another commonality, in that there almost always seems to be a body of water involved. Many who disappear are near water when they disappear, and the ones who are found later are either in, or near, water. And often, right after the disappearance, there would be a rain or snow storm. (Which would explain why no tracks are being found in those cases.)
He tells some amazing stories. A two year old child who disappears and is found later 12 miles away. (Why were they searching 12 miles away?) Small children who are found a substantial distance away from where they disappeared, and there is no possible way any one can determine that a child could hike or even run these distances in the allotted time they were gone. In all cases, they were missing clothes and/or shoes, or their clothes were tattered and torn, or on backwards, etc. (There were a couple of stories where the persons were found dead with their pants at their knees or feet.) People who were found in water were never found to have drowned as the cause of death, and in many, many cases, the cause of death was simply unknown.
There is one case where a man disappears near a lake in Michigan, and they are actually able to find his skis and backpack at the edge of the lake. The lake is frozen over, and they see tracks going out on to the lake. But they just stop. They decide he must have fallen through the ice and drown and he’s considered dead. Fifteen months later, he knocks on his father’s door in Pennsylvania; reporting that he woke up on a field not far from there in someone else’s clothes, and had no recollection of where he had been or what happened to him. He was also found to have had a small knapsack containing maps and a few other things that he also stated were not his. He later went back to college and got a degree in psychology. When he was asked if he would ever seek psychiatric counselling he told them he saw no reason to, because nothing was wrong with him.
I personally don’t know what to think of this particular case, but am leaning towards this guy deciding to take some time off from the realities of life for a while. I am not sure how you explain his tracks disappearing on top of the lake, though. Maybe he fell through and managed to resurface somewhere else and then started hitchhiking across America. It’s hard to say. I just find it really “suspicious” that he has all these maps and says they aren’t his. And, as I understand it, he has gone into psychotherapy of some kind, and that says to me, he is trying to find out what is wrong with him or what happened to him on his own, but he ain’t talkin’ about it. He says he doesn’t need any psycho-therapeutic help because there is nothing wrong with him, but he gets his degree in it and it becomes his line of work. I don’t know. It definitely falls into the weird category though and is fitting for David’s book/s.
In another video regarding disappearances in cities, David finds that there still seems to be bodies of water involved, as far as where they are found; but now we are looking at victims who are usually in their late teens or in their twenties, often college students, and have some kind of religious connection. Many of them were going to a Christian college. He also found what seemed to be a German connection. Names that were German, they were studying German, spoke German, things like that. And, there are calls made to or from their phones right before they disappear. ( I see a picture in my head from the movie The Matrix, where they make calls and are transported to a different place!)
One young lady, who lived in Canada was visiting California and staying at this hotel with a whole lot of bad juju associated with it. I mean, a bunch of suicides, murders, and just really bad stuff. This gal, is caught on camera getting into an elevator and then backing away towards the corner as if she is afraid. She peeks out the door and starts pushing buttons but the door won’t close. She peeks out and then leaves the elevator and is never seen alive again. This motel has four very large tanks of water on the roof. Access to the roof is locked, the tanks are locked, and there is an alarm system. I don’t remember how much time goes by, but there is an issue with water pressure in the motel, so the maintenance man goes up on the roof, gets his ladder, climbs up and opens this tank to find this gal floating inside of it. The weird part? There’s no opening big enough for her to have gotten in it. They actually had to cut her out of it. Then the coroner says there is not enough blood in her body to do a tox screen. Get that? Her body has no blood in it and she has no wounds other than a scratch on one of her knees. Her phone, which she always had on her, was never found.
Another man who disappeared was on the phone with his wife, who was on her way to pick him up, and only less than a minute away. He says he might lose her, and the phone goes dead. Her husband is never seen again, but his phone is found smashed to smithereens.
One guy calls a friend and says he is in a field and the phone went dead. Calls back and the friend hears what sounds like either heavy breathing or wind; he isn’t quite sure. A total of four calls are made and dropped before he disappeared. There was another guy who disappeared and a call was made to 911 for one second and then dropped.
During the Q & A segments, there are many speculations by people as to what is happening here. Many of these people are 100% convinced that their theory is correct. Some think it’s the Yeti, some think is aliens, some think it’s demonic. One guy said he worked for a news show on Sunday nights and that all coroners, etc are actually FBI or CIA and plants meant to keep people from finding out what is really happening. (That wouldn’t surprise me a bit.) He believed there was an issue with the water and contamination/disease and that these people were disappearing as part of a test regarding water contamination. The gal found in the water tank atop the motel was named Elisa Lam. About the time she disappeared, there was an outbreak of TB, and the CDC was going to start doing Lam-Elisa tests to see how widespread the outbreak had been. I honestly don’t know if the gal who disappeared spelled her name the same way, but it was pronounced the same, only reversed, regardless.
One man who’s son disappeared, was approached by a couple and their kids and asked if they could all play together and the man agrees. The kids start playing hide and seek and the woman tells him that their last name is Martin. That’s the same last name as the man and his son. Of course, Martin isn’t an especially rare name. If they all had the last name Jingle-Heimer-Schmidt, I might be a little more freaked out, but I do find it interesting nevertheless.
Anyway, I by no means have heard all of the theories people may have suggested, but this is what I have found so far. For whatever reason, I kept looking at this map that was put on during one of the videos. I began to wonder where the ley lines across the united states were. I had heard some strange things about ley lines and how a lot of ancient structures seemed to have been purposely built on top of them, and things like that. That search was a mess. Those ley lines are everywhere and I don’t know how anyone even keeps track of them!
But then, on a fluke, I saw this map, and I thought it looked rather similar to David’s map of clusters of disappeared persons.
It’s obviously not an exact match, but it was close enough to get my attention. I started looking up vortexes. I found a lot of references to what seem to be major ones or more well known ones, such as the four around Sedona, AZ; Mount Shasta, CA, the Oregon Vortex near Gold Hill, OR; and Joshua Tree CA. I began to wonder if there were other vortexes that were not on this map. Indeed there were. This site tells us there are vortexes in Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Gerogia, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nevada, New jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, TX, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming, and the Bermuda Triangle. (http://vortexhunters.com/vortexmap_usa.html)
I begin to find more matches and continue my search. This site lists places like Crater Lake, and Mount Shasta, which I had heard David mention. They say on this site that Crater Lake is where chiefs of the under world and the above world had a battle; and they say Mount Shasta was once part of the Pacific Ring of Fire, and that the Buddhists believe it is one of the seven sacred mountains of the world. It lists the top 10 vacation spots for spiritual vortexes and sacred sites. Those being, Cohokia Mounds, St. Louis, MO; Crater Lake, Medord, OR; Mount Shasta, Mt. Shasta, CA; New Orleans, LA; Ringing Rocks Sate Park, Upper Black Eddy, PA; Asheville, NC; Taos, NM; Americas Stonehenge, Salem, NH; Devils Tower, Crook County, WY; and White Sands, Tularosa Basin, NM. (http://www.astrochicks.com/2017/10/04/top-10-vacation-spots-for-spiritual-vortexes-and-sacred-sites-in-the-usa/) Definitely some interesting things here. I am a Wyoming girl, and I will say, that Devil’s Tower from an aerial view, is insane! It looks like a giant tree stump that was cut down long ago by giants! I have hiked around the base of it before, and I have to say, there was at the least a feeling of awe as the group ambled around it.
This sight includes the Cosmos Mystery information in South Dakota, and I have been there. If I had not seen these things with my own eyes…but I am a true believer now. Although I think the ball rolling uphill could be explained much like water will travel uphill, as long as the whole terrain itself is actually downhill, there is something that is definitely different about that place. vortexmaps.com/pdfs/5-active-in-us.pdf
I am beginning to put more dots on my own vortex map now mentally, and I have to wonder; is there something here? Vortices are not necessarily the field of the whack job. There is scientific data to support that these things are real, and do exist in many places on the planet. In fact, probably the most famous vortex, you have probably heard of; the Bermuda Triangle. There are many stories of ships and people disappearing here and are never seen again. Other’s report disorientation, compasses that stop working or go haywire, watches that stop working, and loss of time. It is a place shrouded in mystery and no one has ever been able to fully explain what happens here or in many other places around the world.
It seems that most of my research online surrounding vortices comes from people who are of a spiritual inclination. They believe in the supernatural and are open to the idea of supernatural experiences in these places. In fact, they are most likely hoping for them! However, you don’t see the stories about all the people who are disappearing from any of these places. That kind of takes the fun out of it, doncha think?
I then begin to think about the disappearances from cities, and begin to search and see if there are vortices in cities too. I do find those who insist there are, and even a found a video where a woman named Starfire Tor (is that her real name?) and she insists that time travelling is happening and that there can be blurring and blending of realities at times. https://youtu.be/ly_UAZ16QjQ. She is not the only one talking about time travelling and travelers these days, either. And, all these people state that with quantum physics and such, other realities are in fact, well, a reality. Some say that they have determined there are at least 26 of them and maybe more. Others say the number is infinite. That there’s really only two scenarios regarding alternate realities or universes. I would lean towards this one. That there is an alternate universe for every decision you make, in which that decision is played out based on the decision. You meet a guy, and there is a universe where you marry him, and a universe where you don’t. A universe where you have kids, and a universe where you don’t. So, the number of alternate realities would actually be infinite. The other main theory isn’t like that, but it’s been so long since I heard about them, that I can’t remember how it goes. The one I just described seemed to make more sense to me, and I am sure that’s the only reason why I remember it!
The point is, that there are many scientists who support the idea of time travel, in fact many try to solve the problem of how to do it! This Starfire lady said something that I thought was actually a little profound. At some point, time travel will be invented, and so there’s no reason why they wouldn’t be coming back in time now. That made me think a minute. With the exponential rate science and technology is moving now, time travel may very well be invented or solved at some point in the future. Those in the Tin Hat Club would say it already has been by the government, and they want it kept a secret. And I am not knocking the Tin Hat Club, as I would probably be a member!
So, say this is true. Say that time machines have been invented by the government, and they are hiding it from us. It wouldn’t be the first time they have hidden things from us or outright lied about things. We know that they were playing around with this stuff way back in the 1940’s in the Philadelphia Experiment or Project Montauk. Or should I say ALLEGED Philadelphia Experiment and ALLEGED Project Montauk? haha But governments do this kind of stuff. Even Hitler was trying to figure out time travel and other things like invent his own type of UFO, and it’s no secret. This brings to mind the German connection. Did any of these people have ancestors tied to Hitler and his army?
So, we have all these huge areas in the United States, thousands and thousands of acres, owned and run by the US government, staffed by US government personnel, and it also generates a LOT of revenue for the government as well. Even if the time travelling thing is off, that does not mean the vortices are not there, and that for some reason, it is causing unexplained phenomena, and that the government just cannot explain it. And, I would venture to say that as far as the parks go, this is exactly why they made them parks, and why they want control over these areas. They know they can’t explain what is happening, or maybe they can, but they don’t want us knowing that not only are a bunch of people disappearing all the time, but they are disappearing under supernatural conditions that cannot be explained! There is no liability for them and/or any duty to protect us while we are in the parks over and above what they are already doing, and they don’t want to lose any of that revenue. So, they are being very tight lipped about these things, giving out little to no information, and I am sure right now, hoping that David goes away!
I don’t understand what it is about vortices or what they can or cannot do. I don’t know that there is really a spiritual connection with them, but it does seem plausible. Which would open up a whole new can of worms.
But I do think that when you lay the two maps over each other with the other vortices I have found, they are extremely similar, with exception to Florida. And that could merely be because the iron or other properties of the rocks in these more mountainous areas create a more conducive environment for whatever is causing these disappearances. The Bermuda Triangle is nothing but water. But we also know there is a connection to water with these cases, and these disappearances in the parks are happening at a far greater rate than in the triangle.
I think this could very well explain how a person would or could disappear in a place and end up somewhere else, even a tank that there is no physical way you could get into. Because it isn’t physical. It’s metaphysical. Now, your body being completely drained of blood? That implies something far more sinister; and/or spiritual, in fact. I have to wonder if there weren’t others that the coroners just aren’t reporting. Cases where the blood did not settle in any part of the body after death…is that because there wasn’t really any blood to settle?
Regardless, there are far more questions than answers no matter what theories a person puts forward; including myself. David has his work cut out for him, if he is to solve this puzzle, and there are many who want to try and solve it with him. Except the parks commission, that is.
I find it disconcerting that the parks are saying they don’t even have a list of missing persons from the parks. I also have to wonder just how safe they are. As a woman who has often hiked alone, I have to re-think the matter now and if it’s a good idea. I often carry a weapon, but I am not completely convinced this is going to protect me from anything. Given that places like the Rocky Mountains, Wyoming, and Montana, are open carry states and many people have concealed carry licenses, I would venture to guess that at least some of the people who disappeared were indeed packing a weapon. But this is not something I have the answer to. David might have said in one of his books, and until I get a chance to read any of them, or hear an interview where he discloses this information, I won’t know.
That being said, I would leave you with this note. David recommends that no one goes into National Parks with out weapons, and a personal locator beacon on their persons. The message here is definitely to be safe.
Maybe you have ideas or would like to start trying to solve this puzzle too. In that case, I would say I would love your comments and feed back; and of course, happy hunting!